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ARIANNA HUFFINGTON'S NEGLECTED POOR AMERICANS

 

Arianna Huffington Political News and Social Commentary 

"The poor are neglected," says Arianna Huffington.

Arianna Huffington opens up her Sunday column with this outrageously false statement that only a radical leftist could make: "This week, America's poor, a group largely neglected by politicians, was front and center in the national conversation... (see)"  
 
The poor are what? Largely NEGLECTED by politicians? Neglected relative to what country and foreign politicos Arianna?  I asked these questions with the following rant which the moderators at HuffPo refused to post because it was the politically incorrect truth and pained whomever read it:
 
"Due show us Arianna a nation that's done more for its poor than the United States of America. Show us a nation that's transferred more taxpayer's dollars to the underclass than this great, good, caring compassionate country. Since LBJ launched his War on Poverty in 1967 how many trillions of dollars have been doled out to help the "forgotten, disregarded, neglected" poor that leftists are forever crying about? The answer is shocking: a whopping, staggering, unheard of, mindboggling $15.9 trillion (exceeding the current national debt)-or, beginning with the Revolutionary War, $9.5 trillion more than America has spent on all its other wars combined (see). $15.9 trillion over a 45 year period averaging out to $355 billion per year on the poor is your idea of "neglect" Arianna?"
 
Having been a radical leftist (much like today's anti-Wall Street loons) it's not hard to imagine how an Arianna Huffington would've responded to my post. Indeed, she would have answered in the affirmative insisting that we are in fact being neglectful with a statement that would go something like this:
 
"The problem with poverty programs wasn't that we spent too much money, Apollo; but that we didn't spend ENOUGH."
 
Didn't spend ENOUGH? How much then is ENOUGH, Arianna? 
 
There's only one way that a spread-the-wealth utopian leftist-who denies that poverty in a free, prosperous, opportunity rich, upwardly mobile country like ours is mostly a values problem, not a social justice problem (with the rich victimizing and exploiting the poor)-would answer this question:
 
"By "enough" Apollo I mean spending what it takes to end poverty in America and abolish the underclass."
 
In other words, no limits should be put on public spending when it comes to aiding the poor. We must spend baby spend doubling, tripling or quadrupling down if need be on the $15.9 trillion already spent warring on poverty. It means going for broke many times over-raising the pain of our bankruptcy to the nth degree of economic catastrophe-until poverty is defeated and we win a great victory for "economic fairness" collapsing America into an egalitarian nightmare where the middle class is destroyed and there's only very few rich and the squalid, oppressed, dehumanized masses of the poor.
 
Postscript: Debates with HuffPo Lefties
 
The following comment was posted by a Huffpo lefty Perry Logan on Arianna's article praising Bill Clinton's anti-poverty policies over Barack Obama's. Following the comment is my response (which HuffPo posted):
 
At the prayer breakfast, Obama no doubt glided over the record-bre­aking increases in poverty that have occurred under his watch. In case you're interested­, the only guy in town who has done anything significan­t for the poor is Bill Clinton. The poverty rate fell from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 12.7 percent in 1998--the lowest poverty rate since 1979 and the largest five-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years (1965-1970­). The African-Am­erican poverty rate dropped from 33.1 percent in 1993 to 26.1 percent in 1998 -- the lowest level ever recorded and the largest five-year drop in African-Am­erican poverty in more than a quarter century (1967-1972­). The poverty rate for Hispanics fell to the lowest level since 1979, and dropped to 25.6 percent in 1998. Child poverty declined from 22.7 percent in 1993 to 18.9 percent in 1998 -- the biggest five-year drop in nearly 30 years.

That's why I don't believe Obama is a centrist Democrat. If he were a centrist Democrat, the poor would be doing much better. Obama's poverty figures more closely resemble those of a neocon.


Apollo replies:
 
You convenient­ly forgot to tell us what it was Bill Clinton did to lower the poverty rate. You convenient­ly forgot to mention Clinton's National Homeowners­hip Initiative­: the program which forced banks to make bad mortgage loans to underclass minorities thus raising them into the middle class-unti­l they defaulted on their loans and fell back into the underclass­. Clinton's program generated an estimated 18 million of these subprime government required loans creating a false wealth effect that disappeare­d in 2008 when the housing market crashed.
 
Responding to my post Dan Dolan writes:
 
CONVENIENT for you to blame it all on Clinton. REPUBLICAN­S AND DEMOCRATS BOTH HAD A HAND IN OUR CRASH. Bush took the programs and put them on STEROIDS. Bush's vision was a "HOME OWNERSHIP SOCIETY" (HIS WORDS) that would provide homes for working class Americans. The Bulk of the bad mortgages were done under Bush's watch. Yes Clinton did have a program but it was MINISCULE in comparison to what Bush did.
 
Apollo replies:
 
George Bush, the big government republican statist, continued the sub prime housing program for the credit poor underclass set up by Bill Clinton. Fact is, if Clinton hadn't set up this government run regulatory program the 08 housing crash wouldn't have occurred, and they'd be no Great Recession today. It was Clinton who stupidly set this catastrophe in motion. Most of the blame is forever on his head.
 
By the way Dan, as you say, most of these subprime mortgages were generated under Bush. But that's because the program which began under Clinton in June, 1997 went on for three and a half years until his presidency ended in January, 2001. Under Bush it went on for a full eight years. If Clinton had stayed in office until January, 2009 the same enormous number of bad mortgages would have been generated.
 
Know-some-secrets writes:
 
Thanks so much for another dose of Clinton spin, Apollo. With regard to Clinton and poverty, you don’t mention his collusion with Newt Gingrich and the GOP in passing the opportunis­tic” Personal Responsibi­lity and Work Opportunit­y Reconcilia­tion Act” which balanced the federal budget on the backs of the neediest Americans. Ask Marian Right Edelman of the Children’s Defense Fund about what Bill Clinton did to end poverty.

Bill’s self defense of that action a decade later reads like an indictment­, given what we know today about the effect of Clinton – GOP policies on the economy and the effects of its collapse putting more Americans in jeopardy.
http://www­.nytimes.c­om/2006/08­/22/opinio­n/22clinto­n.html
 
Apollo replies
 
From the leftist viewpoint what Clinton took from the poor with one hand (with his welfare reform bill) he gave back with the other using the subprime mortgage program. Indeed, the National Homeowners­hip Initiative­, which collapsed the economy in 2008, was LBJ's War On Poverty by other means-its reincarnation and continuation. As with LBJ's War On Poverty, poverty was the victor in Clinton's war with the poor now worse off than before.
 
 
Kitty writes:
 
"After Reagan's failed "trickle down" theory, it's been downhill ever since."
 
Apollo replies:
 
Compared to Reagan's forth year in office Obamanomic­s is trickleless.
 
 
Blue On Blue writes:
 
"It would be good Apollo if you would take the long view when we talk about poverty in the United States.

Before Lyndon Johnson declared a "war on poverty," more than one in five Americans, -- 22% -- lived below the poverty line. Most of the anti-pover­ty programs started under Johnson (Medicaid, Head Start, Food Stamps, etc.) were continued under Nixon, Ford and Carter and by the time Reagan took office, the poverty rate had been cut in half, to 11%.

Repealing many anti-pover­ty measures, Reagan succeeded in raising the rate to 15%. In his final State of the Union address, he declared that in the war on poverty, "poverty won," to laughter from his Republican­s.

Under Clinton, the rate got down again to about 12%, but by the end of his second term (with his help in signing off on cancelling real welfare), the rate was going up again. When Bush was done cratering the economy and the hopes of many of the poor, the poverty rate was back to nearly Reaganesqu­e levels.

The record shows that we can defeat poverty through government action and we can allow it to grow through government inaction. But the myth persists that no government is good for poor people.

Well, if you consider that creating more poor people is good, then Republican policies have been very good for them."
 
Apollo replies:
 
If I were to give a poor man with two cents in his pocket $50,000 he'd be lifted out of material poverty and catapulted into the middle class. But though my generosity has changed his material fortunes what goes unchanged are his values: the attitude, habits and lifestyle that kept him in poverty. As soon as he spends his $50k he returns to material destitutio­n because of the poverty in his soul. The failed War on Poverty did this to millions-c­hanged their material circumstances for a while but left them poor inside. When the government handouts stopped these mentally poor people became statistica­lly poor again-in reality they never stopped being poor. That's why LBJ's great experiment (the War on Poverty) was a failure, and why it was stopped.
 
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